Is using a gamepad against the EULA - Guild Wars Forums

TheMosesPHD · Jan 12, 2007, 05:08 AM // 05:08

Hey I was sort of thinking it would be fun to program my gamepad to play Guild Wars, but I wasn't sure if it was allowed or not. I tested it out and it actually does work, where-as in some games, like Silkroad Online, the game client cancels it out so it won't work.

Mapping a gamepad to the keyboard keys is basically emulating the keyboard, so I wasn't sure if it would be detected as a bot and I would be banned or not. Anyone know? Or does Guild Wars not have that kind of detection in the first place?

TheMosesPHD · Jan 12, 2007, 05:52 AM // 05:52

Not one person knows?

EiS · Jan 12, 2007, 05:58 AM // 05:58

Actully i don't think so

-.- · Jan 12, 2007, 06:02 AM // 06:02

Try asking Support.

TheMosesPHD · Jan 12, 2007, 06:20 AM // 06:20

Yeah I was just about to do that, I was just seeing if I could bypass that whole process and try and get a quick answer here. I'll check with support I guess to get a definite answer.

Griff Mon · Jan 12, 2007, 06:35 AM // 06:35

Wasn't there a special GW keyboard thingie out there for a while?

How could it be a violation? You are programming a device to operate commands that you manually input anyway. The interface is just getting the same commands through a different device.

If someone with no hands came up with a way to play GW with their feet through a keyboard interface operated by their feet, it would be a violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act to keep them from playing it.

fRag_Doll · Jan 12, 2007, 06:45 AM // 06:45

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Originally Posted by TheMosesPHD

Nope. You can use any type of control interface you like, as long as it doesn't automate any aspect of gameplay.

Devices such as the Z-Board, Wolf Claw and Nostromo are allowed, but you'll be on shakey ground if you program the macros to do anything other than emotes.

DeanBB · Jan 12, 2007, 04:27 PM // 16:27

A key is a key, whether you press space on the keyboard or A on a game pad it doesn't matter. Just don't be making macros or you may be caught for botting.

Painbringer · Jan 12, 2007, 05:58 PM // 17:58

Ok now I am confused – I purchased a Logic Tec keyboard and it has 18 programmable keys. I have the running keys / targeting keys and a few emotes loaded. Am I in violation of some rule?? I wouldn’t know the first thing about botting.

MegaMouse · Jan 12, 2007, 06:14 PM // 18:14

As long as you are not running a bot program or any program that can be concidered a botting program you are fine. Any macro that s tied to an emote is not concidered a bot, it just saves you a couple keypresses.

Mega Mouse

Coridan · Jan 12, 2007, 07:29 PM // 19:29

but if S it bound to R which initiates 1 (which does attack 1) then automaticaly does 2 (attack 2) and so on...i would imagine you are starting to cross the line.

So if S=R=1&2&3 then you are probably in violation....NOTE i said probably :P

manitoba1073 · Jan 12, 2007, 07:40 PM // 19:40

you would be in violation if you went by Coridan description. Other wise binding to like emotes isnt.

dargon · Jan 12, 2007, 09:10 PM // 21:10

you are only in violation if the item in question makes certain things automatic, ie it monitors whether or not your assassins lead attack hit and then follows it up with an offhand only if the lead succeeded. If it just spams 1+2+3 each time you hit the K key, you're fine. ANet doesn't care if you have a macro that makes it so each time you hit Y your elementalist casts elemental attunement and then fire attunement, you're still in control. ANet only cares if the program and not you determines when to cast those spells.

Jan 12, 2007, 05:08 AM // 05:08	#1
TheMosesPHD Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oregon Guild: Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo] Profession: R/	Is using a gamepad against the EULA Hey I was sort of thinking it would be fun to program my gamepad to play Guild Wars, but I wasn't sure if it was allowed or not. I tested it out and it actually does work, where-as in some games, like Silkroad Online, the game client cancels it out so it won't work. Mapping a gamepad to the keyboard keys is basically emulating the keyboard, so I wasn't sure if it would be detected as a bot and I would be banned or not. Anyone know? Or does Guild Wars not have that kind of detection in the first place?

Jan 12, 2007, 05:52 AM // 05:52	#2
TheMosesPHD Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oregon Guild: Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo] Profession: R/	Not one person knows?

Jan 12, 2007, 05:58 AM // 05:58	#3
EiS Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Save The Dragons Profession: R/Mo	Actully i don't think so

Jan 12, 2007, 06:02 AM // 06:02	#4
-.- Banned Join Date: Oct 2006	Try asking Support.

Jan 12, 2007, 06:20 AM // 06:20	#5
TheMosesPHD Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oregon Guild: Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo] Profession: R/	Yeah I was just about to do that, I was just seeing if I could bypass that whole process and try and get a quick answer here. I'll check with support I guess to get a definite answer.

Jan 12, 2007, 06:35 AM // 06:35	#6
Griff Mon Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In the Elfen Forests of Washington State Guild: Damage Radius Profession: N/	Wasn't there a special GW keyboard thingie out there for a while? How could it be a violation? You are programming a device to operate commands that you manually input anyway. The interface is just getting the same commands through a different device. If someone with no hands came up with a way to play GW with their feet through a keyboard interface operated by their feet, it would be a violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act to keep them from playing it.

Jan 12, 2007, 04:27 PM // 16:27	#8
DeanBB Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Arizona Guild: Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com	A key is a key, whether you press space on the keyboard or A on a game pad it doesn't matter. Just don't be making macros or you may be caught for botting.

Jan 12, 2007, 05:58 PM // 17:58	#9
Painbringer Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Minnesota Guild: Black Widows of Death Profession: W/Mo	Ok now I am confused – I purchased a Logic Tec keyboard and it has 18 programmable keys. I have the running keys / targeting keys and a few emotes loaded. Am I in violation of some rule?? I wouldn’t know the first thing about botting.

Jan 12, 2007, 06:14 PM // 18:14	#10
MegaMouse Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: south mississippi Guild: Warriors Of Melos WOM Profession: E/N	As long as you are not running a bot program or any program that can be concidered a botting program you are fine. Any macro that s tied to an emote is not concidered a bot, it just saves you a couple keypresses. Mega Mouse

Jan 12, 2007, 07:29 PM // 19:29	#11
Coridan Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: US Guild: Old Married Gamers {OMG} Profession: W/	but if S it bound to R which initiates 1 (which does attack 1) then automaticaly does 2 (attack 2) and so on...i would imagine you are starting to cross the line. So if S=R=1&2&3 then you are probably in violation....NOTE i said probably :P

Jan 12, 2007, 07:40 PM // 19:40	#12
manitoba1073 Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station Guild: (SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi	you would be in violation if you went by Coridan description. Other wise binding to like emotes isnt.

Jan 12, 2007, 09:10 PM // 21:10	#13
dargon Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Seraphim Knights [TSK] Profession: R/	you are only in violation if the item in question makes certain things automatic, ie it monitors whether or not your assassins lead attack hit and then follows it up with an offhand only if the lead succeeded. If it just spams 1+2+3 each time you hit the K key, you're fine. ANet doesn't care if you have a macro that makes it so each time you hit Y your elementalist casts elemental attunement and then fire attunement, you're still in control. ANet only cares if the program and not you determines when to cast those spells.